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Certain individuals within the Space Engineers Community.

Discussion in 'General' started by Daniel Rodrigues, Mar 26, 2019.

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  1. Daniel Rodrigues Trainee Engineer

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    Hello, fellow Space Engineers. I'd just like to start off with thanking you for taking the time to read this post.

    I'd like to start off with sharing that there are certain individuals within the community that are going on the multiplayer servers sharing their profanity and utterly disgraceful comments relevant to R*pe, Child Porn and Disability. When these comments were being shared, multiple comments came from players of the server telling them to stop but they continued. My faction and I pointed it out to an Admin, he came on but only let them off with a warning, basically a light slap on the wrist.

    I believe punishments like these are too light-hearted and when certain sensitive topics such as Child Porn and R*pe come into the situation, the punishment should be a lot more severe. When the admin remained on the server to try and defuse the situation, when I tried to further argue my point that further action should be taken, the offender tried to play it off as a joke, saying it was "dark humour" and that he "takes no shame in his taste in humour" and as if straight up saying Child Porn and R*pe, is a form of Dark humour. I remained respectful towards the admin and the offender, no matter how much I wanted to outburst at the offender. (When I say the offender as in a single one, there was multiple but there was one particular individual who took it to the extreme with mentioning Child Porn so the argument went particularly in his way.)

    I love this community and I love this game, I've been playing it for over 3 years and there's no other game like it, which is why its important we try to make the game the best possible version of itself but it's people such as these that not only destroy the experiance for the people currently playing but also deters other people from potentially joining the community. I believe these types of people should be made an example, to show the community that these players aren't welcome and that it should remain respectful and civilised.

    Id just likes to mention all these conversations were on screenshots as evidence.
    Took place on UK #2
     
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  2. NoThanks Apprentice Engineer

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    Why is it so difficult for people to just ignore other people and instead resort to censoring them? I hear plenty of idiots talking things I don't want to hear, so I just ignore them. Is it too difficult to ignore people these days when they say something you don't like? I dunno, maybe just ban everyone who's ever made a tasteless joke or offensive comment from steam/gaming altogether. That should solve the problem, make an authoritarian example of them so that others will fear having or voicing dissenting or offensive thoughts/opinions.

    Honestly I'd rather ignore a thousand trolls talking about every tasteless topic in the book... than have to deal with even one silent person who just wants to ram their grid into an undefended base, or grind into someone's hard work just to leave a warhead and walk away.

    I submit that griefers and pointlessly violent PvP hardons will scare away players faster than any combinations of words that could be uttered or typed.
     
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  3. Thrak Junior Engineer

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    Because in multiplayer chat, there is a stream of this crap constantly updating on the left side of the screen, in red and white test. If you hide the chat, you have to hide the rest of the HUD, too. So no, it's not as simple as that.

    It's time to Keen to put its money where it's mouth is and hire PAID admins for these "official" servers. Players, new to the game or even just new to multiplayer, have certain expectations of what an official server should be like-- and it's natural that they should try them, at least to start. With vulgar behavior, griefing, and performance/cleanup issues, players are not getting the kind of experience Marek promised. Sadly, Keen seems more concerned about putting artwork on Steam than actually seeing to this important part of the game.
     
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  4. Stardriver907 Senior Engineer

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    Well right now Keen is only experimenting with official servers. When the Multiplayer Update came out Marek said during the stream that he likes the idea of official servers and was looking into options regarding how such servers would be maintained, and seemed to be leaning towards some sort of subscription model in order to be able to provide the paid admins you desire.

    It's very unlikely that Keen will provide free servers that require paid employees.
     
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  5. Sirhan Blixt Apprentice Engineer

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  6. Thrak Junior Engineer

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    Keen is shooting themselves in the metaphorical foot (gasp!) with their "official" servers. Marek's stated intention was to provide the optimum multiplayer SE experience. That's not happening, and that fact is informing people's experiences. Since Keen has officially launched the game, seemingly, I'd submit it's time to end the experiment.
     
  7. Stardriver907 Senior Engineer

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    Actually, that's exactly what's happening. "Optimum" means best possible. That's what you get. Remember, the game is only out of Early Access. It's still not finished.
     
  8. Malware Master Engineer

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    Being out of early access ordinarily does mean that the game is finished... ;)
     
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  9. Thrak Junior Engineer

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    You're welcome to your own opinion, of course, but not your own facts. I suggest that you go back and watch that Q&A video with Marek when they first launched the multiplayer update and launched the official servers. He very explicitly described what the official server experience should be like... and it ain't happening consistently.
     
  10. Lord Grey Apprentice Engineer

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    Dear Daniel,
    I can understand that your feelings were hurt. Sadly there are a lot of inmature minors on the internet without parental supervision. I'm sure this was some group of minors that think they can do all the stuff on the Internet that get them into serious trouble if their parents get aware of, or their parents don't mind at all, what's even more worse. I once freaked the shit out of such a yob by telling him his real-life-address. But that's a lot of efford to get and so I don't do that anymore. I rather spend my time gaming than tracing down assholes, there are just too many.
    However, if your feelings got hurt, you have to consider how much efford you want to invest to counter it. You may check if it's legal in your jurisdiction to talk such things. A lot of countries have laws that forbit to hurt religious feelings of other people or do "hate speaches" or glorify illegal deeds or even mentioning them, special in the area of child molestring and rape. But as mentioned, that need some efford from your side and will cost money or time, and most offen both and you have to ponder if it worth to you.
    You already invested some time in telling them that such comments are not OK, and I thank you for this.Even if they don't listen to you, other quite readers will not get the impression this is a normal way to interact.
    The other way is to just ignore such "Trolls" as this is the biggest punishment for them if attention-seeking is their motivation. I would also think that the people telling you to ignore it don't think it's OK, but rather don't think it is worth the efford to do something.
    That an Admin of Keen didn't took harsher actions is disapointing, but this is their responsibility and they may fear to end between the fronts of a "What he told is not true, it was that way..."war. I'm myself an Admin of some public forums and I know how dificult it can be to stop Trolls.
     
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