Update 01.178.3 Minor - Dead Drop Arena, New Update Release System

FIRST

 

23rd

 

This gunna be gud.

 

YAY Arena battles?

 

THANK YOU

 

Exciting stuff

 

Finally updating to a sane release system!

 

okay that hud is pretty nice

 

Xoc looks like he needs more sleep.

+edit : Thank you for letting us roll back to previous versions. Lots of love ♥
+again: "revert to previous major updates from this point onwards." Gotcha

 

So this release is actually a STABLE/MAJOR release since it was applied to everyone who previously was on 1/172 Stable?

Or rather, I guess that makes all of the pre-1.178 releases MINOR retroactively? I suppose that makes more sense.

 

Does it mean that current DEV (i.e. 01.178) is immediately pushed to the new single main branch? (i.e. are we getting all changes since 172 today-ish?)

 

OMG i have things to do today ..... Thanks Keen ive been waiting for u

 

Yay return of the teasers! Also guessing Xocliw was flying that at the end there

(Hmm HUD, still feel the background to the icons needs to be less transparent. The UI, very grey :/ and looks like we're still going to have a hideous long long list of stuff to search through. Suggestion- shrink the search bar a tiny bit and have a tab for groups so at least those are separate from the full list.

Edit- Since I see a power icon for the ship, we don't really need all that red text popping up when it's powered down. If the need to know if gyro's and stuff are missing, maybe an icon like everything else would make sense?

 

Fixes are welcome, the new release system is a good idea to give yourself more time to polish major things. Looking at the teaser the HUD looks great, but the UI is just flat and square and boring. I prefer the current.

 

removal of dev build?
I guess thats a good thing...no need to juggle two builds of SE with bug reports coming from both ends.

REVERT TO OTHER OLDER VERSIONS!?!
now thats really sweet.
imagine in a few months time being able to go back to an older version when some bugs still existed?

 

Oh...no....what a shame .... my PC crashed just as the bulk of the video ended and just before Xoc's 'thought for the day'.

Now I will never know what he was going to say........

As far as the update goes, the news is basically good. Marek wasn't saying much about future plans, but the hint that there is focus on teh organisational structures sounded promising. I also think the new structure for the release of updates is better. I did not like the branch system, and think this ( along with a rollback option ) is far superior in every way.

 

Can we get clarification on the potential rollback options in the new release system? There is a discrepancy between the change log post and what Xocliw said in the video. I understand that the system will have fluctuation and I'm sure some of the details were still being ironed out between the recording of the video and the writing of the post.

I'm excited about the new release system. Hopefully it will go a long way to bringing a divided community (DEV vs STABLE) back together under the same roof. The rollback feature will be a very important feature to give players some method of side stepping feature changes that cause them problems.

 

Good information, and I think a good decision on the update schedule.

HUD looks better, we're still missing some essential information (fixed location for altitude and heading), but it's getting better. It's a bit grey though.

Menu UI needs a functionality update. I wouldn't mind a month delay if we could get sorting options into the control panel and inventory menu's. Don't get me wrong, I love the work that has happened, but we also need a functionality update in those UI elements.

I'd love to be able to keep ships docked with a connector separate in menu's. If I press Y, I would love that my whole base doesn't shut down, just the ship that I'm in that is currently docked to said base. I'd also love it if we'd just have a way to drag stuff from one ship to another, merging all inventories on a single ship together. Being able to designate some grids as being connected and a single ship or base, despite being several grids. Stuff like that would make this game so much more intuitive and user friendly.

Edit: This post was waaay too harsh sounding. Not intended that way. Updated to represent the underlying optimistic mood a bit better.

Edit 2: Also, the more I look at the Hud, the more I think it needs to look like it's being projected on your helmet or something... though that would be problematic with open helmets. A little more immersion would bring this HUD a long way.

 

Ok nice, you put some actual PvP game elements into our beloved physics simulation

A step in the right direction, I can't wait to see more in the future!

 

Very good news
All of it.
But when you say new hud i suppossed you go to implement a more inmersive hud like in the Hellion game etc...

 

If you've been playing on the Dev build, what should you do? Opt out of all betas on Steam? Will worlds you saved in the Dev branch still load?

 

So no help for twisty pistons or *real* battery fixes?

I'm looking forward to all the future stuff, but how about some fixes for problems that are hindering play now?

 

I agree, what is in those cases? At least I am still in develop branch. And the new structure doesn't seemed to be pushed by now.
(can opt out, into "1.172 -", "develop", "dx9-32bit","paper","rock", or "scissors")
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There is no fix of these (,yet or in very near future) because unfortunately they are really hard, nearly impossible to fix (because of the limitation of computers). .. at least for pistons. Since pistons are tied to the physics problems.
Maybe because of the physics bugs (and the really hard work they are doing on it) they haven't gotten around to improve the batteries / power distribution.

 

Considering its still early in the year it would be a good time to announce some sort of road map what the next major features are that come to the game this year... like i'd love to hear finaly when we can expect occlusion culling.. and when i hear survival improvements i really hope they finally add a proper survival gameplay like empyrion has to the game with harvestables, growables, animals/aliens, cooking and so on ( make it optional for the naysayers of course ;p ).. anything to put some life and use onto those near lifeless/useless planets here.

 

I'm probably one of those naysayers when it comes to all the tedium of actually being a living meatbag, but some reason to need the planets would be awesome. Like resources that you need to build certain components only being available on planets, and some only being available in asteroids, and a more flushed out ecology that actually interacts with you in some meaningful way

 

removal of the branch system and by the way it sounds seems like a good idea and a step forward to what we used to which was in the last month a complete buggy mess.

That being said the vision for survival and the game don't seem promising, I hope you guys are holding things back, I really hope so. Also survival research seems like a ok feature but for survival to be even remotely fun single player you need a couple of things, WAY better AI + spawning of said AI + varied AI, more blocks + resources + components (just look at the workshop and remake or integrate mods), more environmental hazards that are not just random global events but travel from one section of the map to the other or local planet weather, MORE PHYSICS orbital mechanics(for ships, hopefully for celestial bodies but I highly doubt that's possible) + atmospheric effects and atmospheric physics (there are mods for this already) + heat mechanics for not only planets but for grids and components + higher ship speed as well and lastly a reason to use O2 on ships.

Also the New HUD is a major improvement. New UI however, ITS EXACTLY THE SAME. Its just reskinned and that was the part that was awful the HUD looked clunky but it worked at least and didn't bother me much but the ship and menu parts are awful the grouping is horrible as you have to make new group if you want to rename it and delete the old one. Also in very large or complex ships there are 100's or 1000's of terminal blocks which makes making a group in the current system EXTREMELY tedious and time consuming. As you have to sift through 1 big list. Another thing that should be changed is sorting of the terminal blocks as currently THERE IS NO SORTING. There is no option to automatically group certain blocks together based on type, there is no folder system (independent from grouping) that you can use to sort things either automatically or manually and lastly: The ordering the current version doesn't even bloody work.

I could go on ranting but please, please atleast consider this advice or do something different that achieves the same thing. As of now the vision looks way too shallow.

 

That ending quote...

I pity the fuel!

 

Looking good, thanks guys

 

THANK YOU